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tuxflow.de
We have a problem with our MARCXML data in KOHA. The order of the fields
must be changed for many records. The problem affects all records that
are newly created or changed by us. All <datafield> elements must appear
after the <controlfield> elements. So far the <datafield> element with
the unique ID of the record (MARC field 999 $c) is placed before the
<controlfield> elements. The wrong order violates the MARCXML guidelines.


before editing:

<leader>00996xxx x22002417x 4200</leader>
<controlfield tag="001">23330</controlfield>
<controlfield tag="003">DE-1278</controlfield>
<controlfield tag="007">t|</controlfield>
<controlfield tag="008">161220s2002 xxu||||| |||| 00| 0 ger d</controlfield>
<datafield tag="020" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
<subfield code="a">3-89012-956-0</subfield>
<subfield code="c">51,00 &#x80;</subfield>
</datafield>

after editing:

<leader>01059xxx x2200265x 4200</leader>
<datafield tag="999" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
<subfield code="c">9911</subfield>
<subfield code="d">9911</subfield>
</datafield>
<controlfield tag="001">23330</controlfield>
<controlfield tag="003">DE-1278</controlfield>
<controlfield tag="005">20190604142304.0</controlfield>
<controlfield tag="007">t|</controlfield>
<controlfield tag="008">161220s2002 xxu||||| |||| 00| 0 ger d</controlfield>
<datafield tag="020" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
<subfield code="a">3-89012-956-0</subfield>
<subfield code="c">51,00 &#x80;</subfield>
</datafield>
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Re: invalid marcxml

Joy Nelson-2
Hello-
Can you elaborate a bit more on this?  Is the order of the tags causing
errors in Koha?  Or is it just 'wrong' per the standard?

I am unable to recreate the order you show in your example via the basic
editor or the advanced cataloging editor.  Can you explain what your
process is that creates this order?  Also what version of Koha are you
using currently?

Thanks
joy


On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:25 AM <[hidden email]> wrote:

> We have a problem with our MARCXML data in KOHA. The order of the fields
> must be changed for many records. The problem affects all records that
> are newly created or changed by us. All <datafield> elements must appear
> after the <controlfield> elements. So far the <datafield> element with
> the unique ID of the record (MARC field 999 $c) is placed before the
> <controlfield> elements. The wrong order violates the MARCXML guidelines.
>
>
> before editing:
>
> <leader>00996xxx x22002417x 4200</leader>
> <controlfield tag="001">23330</controlfield>
> <controlfield tag="003">DE-1278</controlfield>
> <controlfield tag="007">t|</controlfield>
> <controlfield tag="008">161220s2002 xxu||||| |||| 00| 0 ger
> d</controlfield>
> <datafield tag="020" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
> <subfield code="a">3-89012-956-0</subfield>
> <subfield code="c">51,00 &#x80;</subfield>
> </datafield>
>
> after editing:
>
> <leader>01059xxx x2200265x 4200</leader>
> <datafield tag="999" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
> <subfield code="c">9911</subfield>
> <subfield code="d">9911</subfield>
> </datafield>
> <controlfield tag="001">23330</controlfield>
> <controlfield tag="003">DE-1278</controlfield>
> <controlfield tag="005">20190604142304.0</controlfield>
> <controlfield tag="007">t|</controlfield>
> <controlfield tag="008">161220s2002 xxu||||| |||| 00| 0 ger
> d</controlfield>
> <datafield tag="020" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
> <subfield code="a">3-89012-956-0</subfield>
> <subfield code="c">51,00 &#x80;</subfield>
> </datafield>
> _______________________________________________
>
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> [hidden email]
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Re: invalid marcxml

tuxflow.de
Hi Joy,

there is no direct error message from Koha, the error is only in the
data structure. We only noticed this error because we're sending the
data to a company so that it can be entered into the Discovery Service
(search engine). This company pointed us to the wrong data structure. We
need the corrected data to fully set up the Discovery Service.

Koha-Version: 18.11.04.000

greetings,
tunix

Am 13.05.20 um 19:41 schrieb Joy Nelson:

> Hello-
> Can you elaborate a bit more on this?  Is the order of the tags causing
> errors in Koha?  Or is it just 'wrong' per the standard?
>
> I am unable to recreate the order you show in your example via the basic
> editor or the advanced cataloging editor.  Can you explain what your
> process is that creates this order?  Also what version of Koha are you
> using currently?
>
> Thanks
> joy
>
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:25 AM <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> We have a problem with our MARCXML data in KOHA. The order of the fields
>> must be changed for many records. The problem affects all records that
>> are newly created or changed by us. All <datafield> elements must appear
>> after the <controlfield> elements. So far the <datafield> element with
>> the unique ID of the record (MARC field 999 $c) is placed before the
>> <controlfield> elements. The wrong order violates the MARCXML guidelines.
>>
>>
>> before editing:
>>
>> <leader>00996xxx x22002417x 4200</leader>
>> <controlfield tag="001">23330</controlfield>
>> <controlfield tag="003">DE-1278</controlfield>
>> <controlfield tag="007">t|</controlfield>
>> <controlfield tag="008">161220s2002 xxu||||| |||| 00| 0 ger
>> d</controlfield>
>> <datafield tag="020" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
>> <subfield code="a">3-89012-956-0</subfield>
>> <subfield code="c">51,00 &#x80;</subfield>
>> </datafield>
>>
>> after editing:
>>
>> <leader>01059xxx x2200265x 4200</leader>
>> <datafield tag="999" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
>> <subfield code="c">9911</subfield>
>> <subfield code="d">9911</subfield>
>> </datafield>
>> <controlfield tag="001">23330</controlfield>
>> <controlfield tag="003">DE-1278</controlfield>
>> <controlfield tag="005">20190604142304.0</controlfield>
>> <controlfield tag="007">t|</controlfield>
>> <controlfield tag="008">161220s2002 xxu||||| |||| 00| 0 ger
>> d</controlfield>
>> <datafield tag="020" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
>> <subfield code="a">3-89012-956-0</subfield>
>> <subfield code="c">51,00 &#x80;</subfield>
>> </datafield>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Koha mailing list  http://koha-community.org
>> [hidden email]
>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
>>
>
>

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Re: invalid marcxml

Marcel de Rooy-2
Please have a look at bug 21708.

Op do 14 mei 2020 om 12:52 schreef <[hidden email]>:

> Hi Joy,
>
> there is no direct error message from Koha, the error is only in the
> data structure. We only noticed this error because we're sending the
> data to a company so that it can be entered into the Discovery Service
> (search engine). This company pointed us to the wrong data structure. We
> need the corrected data to fully set up the Discovery Service.
>
> Koha-Version:   18.11.04.000
>
> greetings,
> tunix
>
> Am 13.05.20 um 19:41 schrieb Joy Nelson:
> > Hello-
> > Can you elaborate a bit more on this?  Is the order of the tags causing
> > errors in Koha?  Or is it just 'wrong' per the standard?
> >
> > I am unable to recreate the order you show in your example via the basic
> > editor or the advanced cataloging editor.  Can you explain what your
> > process is that creates this order?  Also what version of Koha are you
> > using currently?
> >
> > Thanks
> > joy
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:25 AM <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> We have a problem with our MARCXML data in KOHA. The order of the fields
> >> must be changed for many records. The problem affects all records that
> >> are newly created or changed by us. All <datafield> elements must appear
> >> after the <controlfield> elements. So far the <datafield> element with
> >> the unique ID of the record (MARC field 999 $c) is placed before the
> >> <controlfield> elements. The wrong order violates the MARCXML
> guidelines.
> >>
> >>
> >> before editing:
> >>
> >> <leader>00996xxx x22002417x 4200</leader>
> >> <controlfield tag="001">23330</controlfield>
> >> <controlfield tag="003">DE-1278</controlfield>
> >> <controlfield tag="007">t|</controlfield>
> >> <controlfield tag="008">161220s2002 xxu||||| |||| 00| 0 ger
> >> d</controlfield>
> >> <datafield tag="020" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
> >> <subfield code="a">3-89012-956-0</subfield>
> >> <subfield code="c">51,00 &#x80;</subfield>
> >> </datafield>
> >>
> >> after editing:
> >>
> >> <leader>01059xxx x2200265x 4200</leader>
> >> <datafield tag="999" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
> >> <subfield code="c">9911</subfield>
> >> <subfield code="d">9911</subfield>
> >> </datafield>
> >> <controlfield tag="001">23330</controlfield>
> >> <controlfield tag="003">DE-1278</controlfield>
> >> <controlfield tag="005">20190604142304.0</controlfield>
> >> <controlfield tag="007">t|</controlfield>
> >> <controlfield tag="008">161220s2002 xxu||||| |||| 00| 0 ger
> >> d</controlfield>
> >> <datafield tag="020" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
> >> <subfield code="a">3-89012-956-0</subfield>
> >> <subfield code="c">51,00 &#x80;</subfield>
> >> </datafield>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >> Koha mailing list  http://koha-community.org
> >> [hidden email]
> >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
> >>
> >
> >
>
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Re: invalid marcxml

tuxflow.de
Ah, wonderful, very nice. Do existing entries need to be repaired?

Or is there a converter? Thanks for the info!

Am 14.05.20 um 13:28 schrieb Marcel de Rooy:

> Please have a look at bug 21708.
>
> Op do 14 mei 2020 om 12:52 schreef <[hidden email]>:
>
>> Hi Joy,
>>
>> there is no direct error message from Koha, the error is only in the
>> data structure. We only noticed this error because we're sending the
>> data to a company so that it can be entered into the Discovery Service
>> (search engine). This company pointed us to the wrong data structure. We
>> need the corrected data to fully set up the Discovery Service.
>>
>> Koha-Version:   18.11.04.000
>>
>> greetings,
>> tunix
>>
>> Am 13.05.20 um 19:41 schrieb Joy Nelson:
>>> Hello-
>>> Can you elaborate a bit more on this?  Is the order of the tags causing
>>> errors in Koha?  Or is it just 'wrong' per the standard?
>>>
>>> I am unable to recreate the order you show in your example via the basic
>>> editor or the advanced cataloging editor.  Can you explain what your
>>> process is that creates this order?  Also what version of Koha are you
>>> using currently?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> joy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:25 AM <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We have a problem with our MARCXML data in KOHA. The order of the fields
>>>> must be changed for many records. The problem affects all records that
>>>> are newly created or changed by us. All <datafield> elements must appear
>>>> after the <controlfield> elements. So far the <datafield> element with
>>>> the unique ID of the record (MARC field 999 $c) is placed before the
>>>> <controlfield> elements. The wrong order violates the MARCXML
>> guidelines.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> before editing:
>>>>
>>>> <leader>00996xxx x22002417x 4200</leader>
>>>> <controlfield tag="001">23330</controlfield>
>>>> <controlfield tag="003">DE-1278</controlfield>
>>>> <controlfield tag="007">t|</controlfield>
>>>> <controlfield tag="008">161220s2002 xxu||||| |||| 00| 0 ger
>>>> d</controlfield>
>>>> <datafield tag="020" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
>>>> <subfield code="a">3-89012-956-0</subfield>
>>>> <subfield code="c">51,00 &#x80;</subfield>
>>>> </datafield>
>>>>
>>>> after editing:
>>>>
>>>> <leader>01059xxx x2200265x 4200</leader>
>>>> <datafield tag="999" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
>>>> <subfield code="c">9911</subfield>
>>>> <subfield code="d">9911</subfield>
>>>> </datafield>
>>>> <controlfield tag="001">23330</controlfield>
>>>> <controlfield tag="003">DE-1278</controlfield>
>>>> <controlfield tag="005">20190604142304.0</controlfield>
>>>> <controlfield tag="007">t|</controlfield>
>>>> <controlfield tag="008">161220s2002 xxu||||| |||| 00| 0 ger
>>>> d</controlfield>
>>>> <datafield tag="020" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
>>>> <subfield code="a">3-89012-956-0</subfield>
>>>> <subfield code="c">51,00 &#x80;</subfield>
>>>> </datafield>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Koha mailing list  http://koha-community.org
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: invalid marcxml

Marcel de Rooy-2
When you open and save a record again in Koha having patch 21708, the MARC
record will be fixed.
There is no conversion tool. You could open up a new report for that?
Sponsor its development?
Running touch_all_biblios will not do the job, as far as I can see.

Op do 14 mei 2020 om 18:27 schreef tuxflow.de <[hidden email]>:

> Ah, wonderful, very nice. Do existing entries need to be repaired?
>
> Or is there a converter? Thanks for the info!
>
> Am 14.05.20 um 13:28 schrieb Marcel de Rooy:
> > Please have a look at bug 21708.
> >
> > Op do 14 mei 2020 om 12:52 schreef <[hidden email]>:
> >
> >> Hi Joy,
> >>
> >> there is no direct error message from Koha, the error is only in the
> >> data structure. We only noticed this error because we're sending the
> >> data to a company so that it can be entered into the Discovery Service
> >> (search engine). This company pointed us to the wrong data structure. We
> >> need the corrected data to fully set up the Discovery Service.
> >>
> >> Koha-Version:   18.11.04.000
> >>
> >> greetings,
> >> tunix
> >>
> >> Am 13.05.20 um 19:41 schrieb Joy Nelson:
> >>> Hello-
> >>> Can you elaborate a bit more on this?  Is the order of the tags causing
> >>> errors in Koha?  Or is it just 'wrong' per the standard?
> >>>
> >>> I am unable to recreate the order you show in your example via the
> basic
> >>> editor or the advanced cataloging editor.  Can you explain what your
> >>> process is that creates this order?  Also what version of Koha are you
> >>> using currently?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> joy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:25 AM <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> We have a problem with our MARCXML data in KOHA. The order of the
> fields
> >>>> must be changed for many records. The problem affects all records that
> >>>> are newly created or changed by us. All <datafield> elements must
> appear
> >>>> after the <controlfield> elements. So far the <datafield> element with
> >>>> the unique ID of the record (MARC field 999 $c) is placed before the
> >>>> <controlfield> elements. The wrong order violates the MARCXML
> >> guidelines.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> before editing:
> >>>>
> >>>> <leader>00996xxx x22002417x 4200</leader>
> >>>> <controlfield tag="001">23330</controlfield>
> >>>> <controlfield tag="003">DE-1278</controlfield>
> >>>> <controlfield tag="007">t|</controlfield>
> >>>> <controlfield tag="008">161220s2002 xxu||||| |||| 00| 0 ger
> >>>> d</controlfield>
> >>>> <datafield tag="020" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
> >>>> <subfield code="a">3-89012-956-0</subfield>
> >>>> <subfield code="c">51,00 &#x80;</subfield>
> >>>> </datafield>
> >>>>
> >>>> after editing:
> >>>>
> >>>> <leader>01059xxx x2200265x 4200</leader>
> >>>> <datafield tag="999" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
> >>>> <subfield code="c">9911</subfield>
> >>>> <subfield code="d">9911</subfield>
> >>>> </datafield>
> >>>> <controlfield tag="001">23330</controlfield>
> >>>> <controlfield tag="003">DE-1278</controlfield>
> >>>> <controlfield tag="005">20190604142304.0</controlfield>
> >>>> <controlfield tag="007">t|</controlfield>
> >>>> <controlfield tag="008">161220s2002 xxu||||| |||| 00| 0 ger
> >>>> d</controlfield>
> >>>> <datafield tag="020" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
> >>>> <subfield code="a">3-89012-956-0</subfield>
> >>>> <subfield code="c">51,00 &#x80;</subfield>
> >>>> </datafield>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>> Koha mailing list  http://koha-community.org
> >>>> [hidden email]
> >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: invalid marcxml

Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel-2
Bug 21708 fix is not available in this case unless the file is changed
manually, or the version upgraded.
It's not included in 18.11.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 3:41 AM Marcel de Rooy <[hidden email]> wrote:

> When you open and save a record again in Koha having patch 21708, the MARC
> record will be fixed.
> There is no conversion tool. You could open up a new report for that?
> Sponsor its development?
> Running touch_all_biblios will not do the job, as far as I can see.
>
> Op do 14 mei 2020 om 18:27 schreef tuxflow.de <[hidden email]>:
>
> > Ah, wonderful, very nice. Do existing entries need to be repaired?
> >
> > Or is there a converter? Thanks for the info!
> >
> > Am 14.05.20 um 13:28 schrieb Marcel de Rooy:
> > > Please have a look at bug 21708.
> > >
> > > Op do 14 mei 2020 om 12:52 schreef <[hidden email]>:
> > >
> > >> Hi Joy,
> > >>
> > >> there is no direct error message from Koha, the error is only in the
> > >> data structure. We only noticed this error because we're sending the
> > >> data to a company so that it can be entered into the Discovery Service
> > >> (search engine). This company pointed us to the wrong data structure.
> We
> > >> need the corrected data to fully set up the Discovery Service.
> > >>
> > >> Koha-Version:   18.11.04.000
> > >>
> > >> greetings,
> > >> tunix
> > >>
> > >> Am 13.05.20 um 19:41 schrieb Joy Nelson:
> > >>> Hello-
> > >>> Can you elaborate a bit more on this?  Is the order of the tags
> causing
> > >>> errors in Koha?  Or is it just 'wrong' per the standard?
> > >>>
> > >>> I am unable to recreate the order you show in your example via the
> > basic
> > >>> editor or the advanced cataloging editor.  Can you explain what your
> > >>> process is that creates this order?  Also what version of Koha are
> you
> > >>> using currently?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>> joy
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:25 AM <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> We have a problem with our MARCXML data in KOHA. The order of the
> > fields
> > >>>> must be changed for many records. The problem affects all records
> that
> > >>>> are newly created or changed by us. All <datafield> elements must
> > appear
> > >>>> after the <controlfield> elements. So far the <datafield> element
> with
> > >>>> the unique ID of the record (MARC field 999 $c) is placed before the
> > >>>> <controlfield> elements. The wrong order violates the MARCXML
> > >> guidelines.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> before editing:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> <leader>00996xxx x22002417x 4200</leader>
> > >>>> <controlfield tag="001">23330</controlfield>
> > >>>> <controlfield tag="003">DE-1278</controlfield>
> > >>>> <controlfield tag="007">t|</controlfield>
> > >>>> <controlfield tag="008">161220s2002 xxu||||| |||| 00| 0 ger
> > >>>> d</controlfield>
> > >>>> <datafield tag="020" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
> > >>>> <subfield code="a">3-89012-956-0</subfield>
> > >>>> <subfield code="c">51,00 &#x80;</subfield>
> > >>>> </datafield>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> after editing:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> <leader>01059xxx x2200265x 4200</leader>
> > >>>> <datafield tag="999" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
> > >>>> <subfield code="c">9911</subfield>
> > >>>> <subfield code="d">9911</subfield>
> > >>>> </datafield>
> > >>>> <controlfield tag="001">23330</controlfield>
> > >>>> <controlfield tag="003">DE-1278</controlfield>
> > >>>> <controlfield tag="005">20190604142304.0</controlfield>
> > >>>> <controlfield tag="007">t|</controlfield>
> > >>>> <controlfield tag="008">161220s2002 xxu||||| |||| 00| 0 ger
> > >>>> d</controlfield>
> > >>>> <datafield tag="020" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
> > >>>> <subfield code="a">3-89012-956-0</subfield>
> > >>>> <subfield code="c">51,00 &#x80;</subfield>
> > >>>> </datafield>
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Koha mailing list  http://koha-community.org
> > >>>> [hidden email]
> > >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
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