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jeff haskell
 Hi,

 I'm new to the list and grateful to be here.

 I'm interested in drawing software so patrons and new staff,
 volunteers and student interns can find materials on shelves easily
 and quickly.

 Ex. one set of shelves to the far left of the circulation desk would
 be labeled Fiction. Then the next set of shelves named Mystery in the
 shelves bay to the right of the Fiction shelves bay and then to the
 right of that the shelves Bay for Supernatural.

 This would be a floor plan so a patron could walk around the library
 and look at this floor plan map and know where Fiction is - where
 Mystery is, Biography, etc. for every collection throughout the
 library.

 If I sat with an illustrator they could probably draw it all up in
 about 20-30 minutes and I would just scan what they drew and have a
 map (crude compared to a 3D) but enough so a patron could find items.

 But, is there any *free* easy to learn / easy to use software which
could accomplish that?

 Thank you!

J.
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Re: Drawing Software - Floor Mapping Library's Collections

Roger Hiles-2
Hi--

Try GIMP (https://www.gimp.org/)

It's not the simplest program in the world, but it's a great, all-purpose graphics program.  Lots of online assistance, tutorials, etc.  Plus, it's free.

Roger Hiles
Arcadia Public Library  

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 Hi,

 I'm new to the list and grateful to be here.

 I'm interested in drawing software so patrons and new staff,  volunteers and student interns can find materials on shelves easily  and quickly.

 Ex. one set of shelves to the far left of the circulation desk would  be labeled Fiction. Then the next set of shelves named Mystery in the  shelves bay to the right of the Fiction shelves bay and then to the  right of that the shelves Bay for Supernatural.

 This would be a floor plan so a patron could walk around the library  and look at this floor plan map and know where Fiction is - where  Mystery is, Biography, etc. for every collection throughout the  library.

 If I sat with an illustrator they could probably draw it all up in  about 20-30 minutes and I would just scan what they drew and have a  map (crude compared to a 3D) but enough so a patron could find items.

 But, is there any *free* easy to learn / easy to use software which could accomplish that?

 Thank you!

J.
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Re: Drawing Software - Floor Mapping Library's Collections

barton
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There are a couple of good open source drawing packages that should be
available on Windows, Mac or Linux:

OpenOffice has a package called 'draw' that works quite well

For vector graphics, I would look at inkscape: https://inkscape.org/en/

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 12:40 PM, jeff haskell <[hidden email]>
wrote:

>  Hi,
>
>  I'm new to the list and grateful to be here.
>
>  I'm interested in drawing software so patrons and new staff,
>  volunteers and student interns can find materials on shelves easily
>  and quickly.
>
>  Ex. one set of shelves to the far left of the circulation desk would
>  be labeled Fiction. Then the next set of shelves named Mystery in the
>  shelves bay to the right of the Fiction shelves bay and then to the
>  right of that the shelves Bay for Supernatural.
>
>  This would be a floor plan so a patron could walk around the library
>  and look at this floor plan map and know where Fiction is - where
>  Mystery is, Biography, etc. for every collection throughout the
>  library.
>
>  If I sat with an illustrator they could probably draw it all up in
>  about 20-30 minutes and I would just scan what they drew and have a
>  map (crude compared to a 3D) but enough so a patron could find items.
>
>  But, is there any *free* easy to learn / easy to use software which
> could accomplish that?
>
>  Thank you!
>
> J.
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Cab Vinton
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Wonder how hard it would be implement something like this in Koha:

http://tallons.law.utexas.edu/record=b2070846

(see dark blue Map It! button on the right, next to Status)

This is provided through a commercial product, but the basic
technology doesn't seem all that complicated (from a layman's point of
view!)

Trickiest part is perhaps making sure the cn_sort values in the item
records are correct?

A couple related bugs:
* https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=737
* https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10814

Cheers,

Cab Vinton, Director
Plaistow Public Library
Plaistow, NH
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Re: Drawing Software - Floor Mapping Library's Collections

barton
Cab,

Apparently not impossible:

https://hartford.waldo.kohalibrary.com/app/work/141581

I don't know any details of the implementation, though.

--Barton

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Cab Vinton <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Wonder how hard it would be implement something like this in Koha:
>
> http://tallons.law.utexas.edu/record=b2070846
>
> (see dark blue Map It! button on the right, next to Status)
>
> This is provided through a commercial product, but the basic
> technology doesn't seem all that complicated (from a layman's point of
> view!)
>
> Trickiest part is perhaps making sure the cn_sort values in the item
> records are correct?
>
> A couple related bugs:
> * https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=737
> * https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10814
>
> Cheers,
>
> Cab Vinton, Director
> Plaistow Public Library
> Plaistow, NH
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barton
Nate says this was done using 'stackmap'.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Barton Chittenden <
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> Cab,
>
> Apparently not impossible:
>
> https://hartford.waldo.kohalibrary.com/app/work/141581
>
> I don't know any details of the implementation, though.
>
> --Barton
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Cab Vinton <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Wonder how hard it would be implement something like this in Koha:
>>
>> http://tallons.law.utexas.edu/record=b2070846
>>
>> (see dark blue Map It! button on the right, next to Status)
>>
>> This is provided through a commercial product, but the basic
>> technology doesn't seem all that complicated (from a layman's point of
>> view!)
>>
>> Trickiest part is perhaps making sure the cn_sort values in the item
>> records are correct?
>>
>> A couple related bugs:
>> * https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=737
>> * https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10814
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Cab Vinton, Director
>> Plaistow Public Library
>> Plaistow, NH
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Indranil Das Gupta
Yep stackmap and proprietary as $CHOICEOFWORD.

This might be interesting if we are looking for OSS solutions
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Indoor_Mapping

Cheers
Indranil

On Wed 18 Jul, 2018, 2:23 AM Barton Chittenden, <[hidden email]>
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> Nate says this was done using 'stackmap'.
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Barton Chittenden <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Cab,
> >
> > Apparently not impossible:
> >
> > https://hartford.waldo.kohalibrary.com/app/work/141581
> >
> > I don't know any details of the implementation, though.
> >
> > --Barton
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Cab Vinton <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> Wonder how hard it would be implement something like this in Koha:
> >>
> >> http://tallons.law.utexas.edu/record=b2070846
> >>
> >> (see dark blue Map It! button on the right, next to Status)
> >>
> >> This is provided through a commercial product, but the basic
> >> technology doesn't seem all that complicated (from a layman's point of
> >> view!)
> >>
> >> Trickiest part is perhaps making sure the cn_sort values in the item
> >> records are correct?
> >>
> >> A couple related bugs:
> >> * https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=737
> >> * https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10814
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Cab Vinton, Director
> >> Plaistow Public Library
> >> Plaistow, NH
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drojup
This feature (https://hartford.waldo.kohalibrary.com/app/work/141581) where a
location map shows the item position would be great!



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MartinRenvoize
European Southern Observatory have been doing this for as long as I can
remember.

https://eso.koha-ptfs.eu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=121769&query_desc=callnum%2Cphr%3A%20A%2014-1

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> This feature (https://hartford.waldo.kohalibrary.com/app/work/141581)
> where a
> location map shows the item position would be great!
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On Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 5:14 AM Martin Renvoize <
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> European Southern Observatory have been doing this for as long as I can
> remember.
>
>
> https://eso.koha-ptfs.eu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=121769&query_desc=callnum%2Cphr%3A%20A%2014-1


Martin,

Do you know if this is done with stackmap as well?
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MartinRenvoize
I believe it's a homegrown solution, but it's been a while since I've
interacted with them directly I'm afraid.  I've always thought it looked
pretty cool and helpful to patrons though :)

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On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 at 12:36, Barton Chittenden <[hidden email]>
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>
>
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 5:14 AM Martin Renvoize <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> European Southern Observatory have been doing this for as long as I can
>> remember.
>>
>>
>> https://eso.koha-ptfs.eu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=121769&query_desc=callnum%2Cphr%3A%20A%2014-1
>
>
> Martin,
>
> Do you know if this is done with stackmap as well?
>
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Magnus Enger
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 at 23:07, Indranil Das Gupta <[hidden email]> wrote:
> This might be interesting if we are looking for OSS solutions
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Indoor_Mapping

There is also this library, which might prove useful:
https://leafletjs.com/
It can be used with custom images (e.g. a floorplan of a library).

I think a mapping function for Koha, where we could show the
(approximate) location of an item on a map, would be super useful. I
guess there are three ways to do it:

- Build it right into Koha
- Build it as a plugin for Koha
- Build a free standing web thingy that can work with Koha (through a
link from Koha to a map)

If anyone is interested in collaborating on this please let me know!

Best regards,
Magnus
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Owen Leonard-4
> I think a mapping function for Koha, where we could show the
> (approximate) location of an item on a map, would be super useful.

I don't know anything about how an implementation would work, but I'd
like to put in my vote for a solution that uses SVG. There are perl
libraries for generating SVG, so it might be possible to overlay a
dynamically-generated marker onto a custom SVG library map.

 -- Owen

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Indranil Das Gupta
Owen:

Indeed! I was thinking of it last night that an SVG map generated in
Inkscape or something and then the pointer rendered or styled on top (or
not render the map for non-tagged / tagable items) using XSLT

The footprint of such a solution may be the lightest to render.

Just my 2p

Indranil

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> > I think a mapping function for Koha, where we could show the
> > (approximate) location of an item on a map, would be super useful.
>
> I don't know anything about how an implementation would work, but I'd
> like to put in my vote for a solution that uses SVG. There are perl
> libraries for generating SVG, so it might be possible to overlay a
> dynamically-generated marker onto a custom SVG library map.
>
>  -- Owen
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barton
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Yeah, that should be super-easy to do. If I'm not mistaken, SVG can be
manipulated via CSS, so it might be as easy as giving a class to each
section in the drawing that represents a shelving location. For a given
item, you'd read items.location, and then change the color for that class.

As long as we're talking about indoor mapping, here is a project to make
buildings accessible to the blind:
https://www.aph.org/nearby-explorer/indoor-explorer/ . It /is/ proprietary,
but I think it works with openstreetmap.

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Owen Leonard <[hidden email]> wrote:

> > I think a mapping function for Koha, where we could show the
> > (approximate) location of an item on a map, would be super useful.
>
> I don't know anything about how an implementation would work, but I'd
> like to put in my vote for a solution that uses SVG. There are perl
> libraries for generating SVG, so it might be possible to overlay a
> dynamically-generated marker onto a custom SVG library map.
>
>  -- Owen
>
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