[Bug 22487] New: Add Mana and Bugzilla components on bugzilla

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[Bug 22487] New: Add Mana and Bugzilla components on bugzilla

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            Bug ID: 22487
           Summary: Add Mana and Bugzilla components on bugzilla
 Change sponsored?: ---
           Product: Project Infrastructure
           Version: unspecified
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P5 - low
         Component: Release tools
          Assignee: [hidden email]
          Reporter: [hidden email]
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In order to be able to report bugs against Mana and Bugzilla, it would be nice
if this components could be added.

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[Bug 22487] Add Mana and Bugzilla components on bugzilla

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--- Comment #1 from Jonathan Druart <[hidden email]> ---
About Bugzilla: "Project infrastructure > Bugzilla" ?

About Mana: "Koha > Mana" (i.e. Mana code integreated to Koha) or you are
talking about the server code?

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[Bug 22487] Add Mana and Bugzilla components on bugzilla

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--- Comment #2 from Katrin Fischer <[hidden email]> ---
Hi Jonathan,

yes, Project infrastructure > Bugzilla

For Mana I was thinking of the code outside of Koha. Not sure how to handle
that best. I wanted to report 'improve the email sent by Mana' (bug 22488)

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[Bug 22487] Add Mana and Bugzilla components on bugzilla

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--- Comment #3 from Jonathan Druart <[hidden email]> ---
(In reply to Katrin Fischer from comment #2)
> yes, Project infrastructure > Bugzilla

Done!

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[Bug 22487] Add Mana and Bugzilla components on bugzilla

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--- Comment #4 from Jonathan Druart <[hidden email]> ---
(In reply to Katrin Fischer from comment #2)
> For Mana I was thinking of the code outside of Koha. Not sure how to handle
> that best. I wanted to report 'improve the email sent by Mana' (bug 22488)

The code is at https://git.biblibre.com/biblibre/koha-mana and, I think, should
be moved to gitlab. And so we would use the bug tracker of the project.

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[Bug 22487] Add Mana and Bugzilla components on bugzilla

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--- Comment #5 from Katrin Fischer <[hidden email]> ---
(In reply to Jonathan Druart from comment #4)
> (In reply to Katrin Fischer from comment #2)
> > For Mana I was thinking of the code outside of Koha. Not sure how to handle
> > that best. I wanted to report 'improve the email sent by Mana' (bug 22488)
>
> The code is at https://git.biblibre.com/biblibre/koha-mana and, I think,
> should be moved to gitlab. And so we would use the bug tracker of the
> project.

Agreed, we should move it to the central repository as a community project. I'd
be ok with using the issue tracker too, but in the past we have made a point
about not forcing users to have many accounts. Keeping an option to report here
too might be in line with that.

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[Bug 22487] Add Mana and Bugzilla components on bugzilla

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--- Comment #6 from Martin Renvoize <[hidden email]> ---
We have various side projects popping up these days.. and like that they're
getting centralised onto gitlab but I do wonder how the community should be
involved in their maintenance. I agree it's a good idea to have a project here
for them so we're able to keep track of them in one place.. but whose role is
it to SO, QA, and Release such fixes into the wild..?

Should it fall to the same team or should there be some roles with a subteam..
Mana feels especially important to get right as it could end up tracking the
Koha release cycle as we add features to it and add support for them in Koha.

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--- Comment #7 from Jonathan Druart <[hidden email]> ---
(In reply to Martin Renvoize from comment #6)

> We have various side projects popping up these days.. and like that they're
> getting centralised onto gitlab but I do wonder how the community should be
> involved in their maintenance. I agree it's a good idea to have a project
> here for them so we're able to keep track of them in one place.. but whose
> role is it to SO, QA, and Release such fixes into the wild..?
>
> Should it fall to the same team or should there be some roles with a
> subteam.. Mana feels especially important to get right as it could end up
> tracking the Koha release cycle as we add features to it and add support for
> them in Koha.

In my understanding if the community decides to integrate a project (Mana, Hea,
etc.), they have to maintain/keep an eye on it (server-side as well).
Could be good to discuss that in dev meeting?

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--- Comment #8 from Paul Poulain <[hidden email]> ---
I'm semi-fine with having Mana being integrated into Koha general
infrastructure:
 * pro => the infrastructure already exist. I don't want this project to appear
as a "BibLibre project"
 * cons => I see mana as a central point for sharing things that could be used
by other software. For example:
 - use mana-kb in Coral to share licenses (onix-pl) and resources (kbart)
 - use mana-kb in Urungi to share layers and dashboards/reports
moving mana to gitlab means "linking" mana-kb & Koha in many ppl's mind. So
harder to expand it to other software.

Both pro & cons are interesting and legit. My final opinion is not made.

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[Bug 22487] Add Mana and Bugzilla components on bugzilla

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--- Comment #9 from Katrin Fischer <[hidden email]> ---
(In reply to Paul Poulain from comment #8)

> I'm semi-fine with having Mana being integrated into Koha general
> infrastructure:
>  * pro => the infrastructure already exist. I don't want this project to
> appear as a "BibLibre project"
>  * cons => I see mana as a central point for sharing things that could be
> used by other software. For example:
>  - use mana-kb in Coral to share licenses (onix-pl) and resources (kbart)
>  - use mana-kb in Urungi to share layers and dashboards/reports
> moving mana to gitlab means "linking" mana-kb & Koha in many ppl's mind. So
> harder to expand it to other software.
>
> Both pro & cons are interesting and legit. My final opinion is not made.

I am not insisting on Bugzilla or some other place, but I think we should have
a clear workflow on where to report enhancements and bugs :)

That said I would love some feedback on the open Mana bug reports, currently
all linked to bug 17047. Especially bug 22210.

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--- Comment #10 from Paul Poulain <[hidden email]> ---
OK, got it and agreed regarding the bugzilla suggestion

Product "mana-kb" created, with one component (mana-kb server)
default assignee = koha-bugs

Regarding a move to git.koha-community.org, I also agree. If the project needs
to become independent one day, it will always be possible to move to
mana-kb-project.org or something like that. I can't do that myself, so Joubu or
Martin, feel free.

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--- Comment #11 from Jonathan Druart <[hidden email]> ---
I am going to create koha-mana on gitlab.

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--- Comment #12 from Jonathan Druart <[hidden email]> ---
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> I am going to create koha-mana on gitlab.

https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-mana

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--- Comment #13 from Katrin Fischer <[hidden email]> ---
(In reply to Paul Poulain from comment #10)
> OK, got it and agreed regarding the bugzilla suggestion
>
> Product "mana-kb" created, with one component (mana-kb server)
> default assignee = koha-bugs

Why not just a component in Project infrastructure?

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--- Comment #14 from Martin Renvoize <[hidden email]> ---
Thanks guys, this really looks like it's moving in the right directions now. :)

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--- Comment #15 from Jonathan Druart <[hidden email]> ---
(In reply to Katrin Fischer from comment #13)
> (In reply to Paul Poulain from comment #10)
> > OK, got it and agreed regarding the bugzilla suggestion
> >
> > Product "mana-kb" created, with one component (mana-kb server)
> > default assignee = koha-bugs
>
> Why not just a component in Project infrastructure?

What about that, Paul?

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--- Comment #16 from Paul Poulain <[hidden email]> ---
It just seemed to me to be more logical. And that does not make a big
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--- Comment #17 from Katrin Fischer <[hidden email]> ---
(In reply to Paul Poulain from comment #16)
> It just seemed to me to be more logical. And that does not make a big
> difference.

I don't mind much, it was just different to what I had in mind.

I'd still really like to get a comment on bug 22210 from Biblibre.

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--- Comment #18 from Jonathan Druart <[hidden email]> ---
Discussed during the last dev meeting:
I moved the 4 bugs from the Mana-kb product to a new Project infrastructure >
Mana-kb (server)
Removed the Mana-kb product
Then created a Koha > Mana-kb component for Mana related code inside Koha.

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