[Bug 17233] New: Add 008 value builder plugin for MARC21 classifications

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            Bug ID: 17233
           Summary: Add 008 value builder plugin for MARC21
                    classifications
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           Version: master
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            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P5 - low
         Component: MARC Authority data support
          Assignee: [hidden email]
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This patch adds 008 cataloguing value builder for MARC21 classifications
records (LCC, DDC/Dewey, UDC and so on).

For most practical purposes, MARC21 classification records
(<https://www.loc.gov/marc/classification/>) are quite similar to regular
MARC21 authority records, so handling them in Koha is (almost) achievable by
means of the built-in 'regular' MARC21 authority records related
functionalities, but there are some notable differences - in particular, 008
field length and format is not the same.

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--- Comment #1 from Jacek Ablewicz <[hidden email]> ---
Created attachment 55098
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Bug 17233 - Add 008 value builder plugin for MARC21 classifications

This patch adds 008 cataloguing value builder for MARC21 classifications
records (LCC, DDC/Dewey, UDC and so on).

For most practical purposes, MARC21 classification records
(<https://www.loc.gov/marc/classification/>) are quite similar to regular
MARC21 authority records, so handling them in Koha is (almost) achievable
by means of the built-in 'regular' MARC21 authority records related
functionalities, but there are some notable differences - in particular,
008 field length and format is not the same.

To test:

1) apply patch
2) link the new plugin (marc21_field_008_classifications.pl) to the 008
field in the existing (or cloned, ..) authority framework of your choice
3) try to add, edit, re-edit 008 field using this "authority" framework,
ensure that the new plugin behaves as it should according to the
Library of Congress specifications for MARC21 classification records
008 field format (<https://www.loc.gov/marc/classification/cd008.html>).

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--- Comment #2 from M. Tompsett <[hidden email]> ---
There was another plug in that did a really cool single line at the top and
highlight and update thing, but this generally works.

An improvement would be highlighting changes, because if I put an invalid value
in the field and then call up the builder, it defaults to a valid value in the
part that is invalid.

But I don't think this is a reason to block this. Signing off.

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Created attachment 58716
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[SIGNED-OFF] Bug 17233 - Add 008 value builder plugin for MARC21
classifications

This patch adds 008 cataloguing value builder for MARC21 classifications
records (LCC, DDC/Dewey, UDC and so on).

For most practical purposes, MARC21 classification records
(<https://www.loc.gov/marc/classification/>) are quite similar to regular
MARC21 authority records, so handling them in Koha is (almost) achievable
by means of the built-in 'regular' MARC21 authority records related
functionalities, but there are some notable differences - in particular,
008 field length and format is not the same.

To test:

1) apply patch
2) link the new plugin (marc21_field_008_classifications.pl) to the 008
field in the existing (or cloned, ..) authority framework of your choice
3) try to add, edit, re-edit 008 field using this "authority" framework,
ensure that the new plugin behaves as it should according to the
Library of Congress specifications for MARC21 classification records
008 field format (<https://www.loc.gov/marc/classification/cd008.html>).

Signed-off-by: Mark Tompsett <[hidden email]>

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--- Comment #4 from Marcel de Rooy <[hidden email]> ---
Question: I am not familiar with MARC21 classification records. But I
understand that they are not the same as authority records. Are we introducing
here some workaround to use authorities as classifications? Strictly speaking,
improper use?
Since this only is a plugin, we do no harm here. But what would be the next
step? How are you using this? What is the future for classifications in Koha?

Changing status to reflect need for feedback.

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--- Comment #5 from Katrin Fischer <[hidden email]> ---
Not sure if this is true in general, but we get classification records from our
union catalog in the same file as the other authority records. We currently
don't import them, but last time I investigated it looked like we'd just need a
framework and some additional mappings for the main heading (hardcoded in some
places) to make it work.

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--- Comment #6 from Jacek Ablewicz <[hidden email]> ---
As far as I know, for all practical purposes, classification records (or
"classification authority records" in other nomenclature) are authority
records, just slightly different kind than "ordinary" authority records.

LoC classification records are generally speaking, numeric classification
records (of different types: UDC, Dewey, and so on) controlled by an authority.
In MARC21 biblio records, classification numbers are typically in 08X fields,
and in the authority record, corresponding classification number is (usually ?)
in the heading field with 153 tag.

But, as Katrin said, for such "classification authority records" to be fully
functional in Koha, apart from user-configurable stuff like frameworks, zebra
indexes etc., you need to make some changes (additions) in the code too:

    - C4/Heading/MARC21.pm
    - C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm

because tag numbers and subfields for a given authority types are hard coded in
there. For example (we are using UDC numerical classification in here), we
needed to add definitions for 080 and 153 tags in aforementioned files, because
they were not supported by default.

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Bug 17233 - Add 008 value builder plugin for MARC21 classifications

This patch adds 008 cataloguing value builder for MARC21 classifications
records (LCC, DDC/Dewey, UDC and so on).

For most practical purposes, MARC21 classification records
(<https://www.loc.gov/marc/classification/>) are quite similar to regular
MARC21 authority records, so handling them in Koha is (almost) achievable
by means of the built-in 'regular' MARC21 authority records related
functionalities, but there are some notable differences - in particular,
008 field length and format is not the same.

To test:

1) apply patch
2) link the new plugin (marc21_field_008_classifications.pl) to the 008
field in the existing (or cloned, ..) authority framework of your choice
3) try to add, edit, re-edit 008 field using this "authority" framework,
ensure that the new plugin behaves as it should according to the
Library of Congress specifications for MARC21 classification records
008 field format (<https://www.loc.gov/marc/classification/cd008.html>).

Signed-off-by: Mark Tompsett <[hidden email]>

Signed-off-by: Marcel de Rooy <[hidden email]>

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--- Comment #8 from Marcel de Rooy <[hidden email]> ---
(In reply to Jacek Ablewicz from comment #6)

> But, as Katrin said, for such "classification authority records" to be fully
> functional in Koha, apart from user-configurable stuff like frameworks,
> zebra indexes etc., you need to make some changes (additions) in the code
> too:
>
>     - C4/Heading/MARC21.pm
>     - C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm
>
> because tag numbers and subfields for a given authority types are hard coded
> in there. For example (we are using UDC numerical classification in here),
> we needed to add definitions for 080 and 153 tags in aforementioned files,
> because they were not supported by default.

Would these adjustments be interesting too for the community?

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Passing QA on this patch with reference to the discussion above.

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Pushed to master for 17.05, thanks Jacek!

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--- Comment #11 from Katrin Fischer <[hidden email]> ---
This won't get ported back to 16.11.x as it is an enhancement.

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--- Comment #12 from Héctor Eduardo Castro Avalos <[hidden email]> ---
Hi Marcel

> Would these adjustments be interesting too for the community?

Of-course these adjustments are interesting specially for librarian and
catalogers, but just one comment.

This kind of record really need to be recorded in a separate table or database,
since they tend to grow-up, imagine if you enter all SCDD21 or UDC schemas in
conjunction with your authority works, will be chaos.

If you want to export all classification records it is much better to get this
records in separate database not mixed with another type or record.

I like Koha but there are some things that need to be improved, for example
MARC21 Holding, Free floating subdivision and of course classification records.

The problem here is that Koha is developed by software engineers and they do
not really consult librarian.

Librarian thought

Regards

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--- Comment #13 from Chris Cormack <[hidden email]> ---
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> The problem here is that Koha is developed by software engineers and they do
> not really consult librarian.

This is both unhelpful, insulting and blatantly wrong.
Many of the developers are trained librarians, and I doubt a single feature in
Koha has been added without being specced and asked for by librarians.

Trying to divide the community will not result in a better system

Please stop

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[Bug 17233] Add 008 value builder plugin for MARC21 classifications

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Zeno Tajoli <[hidden email]> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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                 CC|                            |[hidden email]
  Text to go in the|                            |This patch adds 008
      release notes|                            |cataloguing value builder
                   |                            |for MARC21 classifications
                   |                            |records (LCC, DDC/Dewey,
                   |                            |UDC and so on).
                   |                            |In fact now
                   |                            |Koha doesn't really support
                   |                            |classification records,
                   |                            |this is a starting point.

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--- Comment #14 from Héctor Eduardo Castro Avalos <[hidden email]> ---
(In reply to Chris Cormack from comment #13)

Hi Chris

> This is both unhelpful, insulting and blatantly wrong.
> Many of the developers are trained librarians, and I doubt a single feature
> in Koha has been added without being specced and asked for by librarians.
>
> Trying to divide the community will not result in a better system
>
> Please stop

I wasn't try to insult anybody with a simple commentary. Ok, I accept that
commentary is in the wrong way, but at the same time, I think it's not the way
to react. I accept that you call my attention, but not in that way.
And of course I do not want to divide the community, I think that this project
is a good effort of many people around the world like you, who has spent a lot
of time developing Koha.

Please accept my apologize.

Regards

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Katrin Fischer <[hidden email]> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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  Text to go in the|This patch adds 008         |This patch adds a 008
      release notes|cataloguing value builder   |cataloguing value builder
                   |for MARC21 classifications  |for MARC21 classifications
                   |records (LCC, DDC/Dewey,    |records (LCC, DDC/Dewey,
                   |UDC and so on).
            |UDC and so on).
                   |In fact now                 |This is a
                   |Koha doesn't really support |starting point for
                   |classification records,     |supporting classification
                   |this is a starting point.   |records in Koha.

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